The national enquirer insider
2004
The National Enquirer Insider post first appeared on the newspaper’s online message board in 2004, sparking extensive analysis, debate, and skepticism ever since. Many fans dismissed the Insider’s revelations, viewing them as an invasion of Michael Jackson’s privacy, which they believed contradicted his wishes. Additionally, the language used in the post has been deemed offensive by some, further alienating certain fans. This piece also clashes with the public persona that Michael maintained and that many of his supporters continue to uphold. While we acknowledge the privacy concerns, we are not troubled by the post’s divergence from his public image or its overall tone.
Our goal remains to explore the complexities of Michael Jackson’s life with the compassion that every individual deserves. We cannot definitively say how Michael would have felt about this, but since the letter actively contradicts damaging stereotypes and harmful lies we struggle to see how it could be equally bad or worse than those lies. That’s why we choose to investigate it further.
Cross-referencing this statement with other sources is crucial for verifying the claims made. Equally important is its potential to shed light on statements that are difficult to substantiate: If the insider can be proven to be correct in a lot of instances, are they right about everything? While everyone can make mistakes, even those closest to him, corroborating multiple statements can help paint a clearer picture of Michael Jackson as a person.
Since the post’s publication in 2004, a wealth of information has emerged that supports various aspects of what the insider reported at that time.
Taken from MJJCommunity, this is the earliest we could find it, from December 9, 2010.
Authenticity
impossible to prove, but highly corroborated
Evidence
The insider possesses knowledge on subjects that became public only after the release of the insider letter. These subjects are:
- Diana Ross
- Lisa Marie Presley
- having children
- possibly June Chandler
Some topics may be challenging to substantiate, yet they still hold value, including:
- the extent of his plastic surgery
- sex
- gay advances
- blackness/identity
- privacy
- personality
The insider has a deep understanding of the underlying motivations, reasoning, and contexts that correspond with information collected from various other sources.
Value
The insider’s text explores an extensive array of subjects, representing one of the most comprehensive examinations of Michael Jackson as a private person. It delves into themes such as sexuality, relationships, children, plastic surgery, allegations, identity, and personality.
The available information about Michael as an individual is quite limited, and the insider has managed to convey this complexity with great detail. This mirrors the insights shared by Lisa Marie Presley, who offers a distinctly different portrayal of MJ compared to numerous other sources that appear to be more constrained and influenced by his public image.
Sources
Lipstick Alley, MJJ Community, Reddit – a random sample:
https://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/an-insiders-letter-about-mj-the-price-of-one-issue/
https://www.mjjcommunity.com/threads/question-about-the-glenda-tapes.95335/
Nor gay or phedofile
You people are so gullible! I love it, it’s hilarious.
Anybody who genuinely knows Michael (which is none of you), knows that Michael is straight – almost to a fault of himself, considering that he doesn’t look like the most masculine of brothas. You’re so quick to believe Scott, which is hysterical because if you knew their history, you’d know how weirded out Michael was by Scott’s advances. Michael’s not overtly homophobic, but he is old school and isn’t completely comfortable with it. However, given the nature of his profession, he has tried his best to be accepting and because he tries to be a good Christian, he does not judge, he leaves that to God. He still gets incredibly uncomfortable by advances by anything remotely male….which brings us to Scott. Scott made a pass at Michael. Michael ignored it, initially. The second time, Michael told him to back the #### off (in more polite language, of course…Michael was still quite young and sweet and innocent back in the ’80s, if a dude tried something similar NOW, he might get punched in the face). They haven’t spoken since then. The closest he ever got to Michael after about ’84 was that his boyfriend was friends with Priscilla Presley’s makeup artist. The two haven’t spoken since Scott tried to get all up on Mikey.
One may ask themselves, if his motive for coming forward now was out of some sort of moral obligation and a desire to crush MJ’s “strategy” of declaring himself heterosexual, why didn’t he come forward in 1993? Maids, cooks, ex-guards, everybody and their momma was coming forward with “claims,” why not then? Or, if the motivation behind this is genuine concern for the welfare of children and not money, why not go to the police with the things you’ve seen (i.e. Scott claiming to have seen child porn on Michael’s nightstand)?
Simple, none of it happened and Scott was still livin’ the life with all of Liberace’s dough. Poverty brings forth all sorts of “memories.” Isn’t it convenient that just as soon as his cash stash is running dry, he tells the world he had sex with Michael Jackson?
Please.
Let me break this down for you people and pay attention because I don’t like doing it more than once. Michael Jackson is thoroughly heterosexual. He does not like men. He does not like boys. He likes women over the age of 18. Shiiiiit, even before he was 18, he liked women well over the age of 18. It’s no secret within certain circles that Diana Ross was his first. The poor guy thought he was going to marry her but she fucked him over with Gene Simmons and Arne Naess. He was pretty naive back then, so he chose not to see the obvious. Then he was celibate for about 3 years, before becoming involved with a pretty, blond employee of his, an actress from a popular ’80s/early ’90s sitcom, a singer that nobody cares about anymore but was the sh.it back in the day, some groupie/secretary, June Chandler (the mother of punk bitch Jordan who got jealous of mommy’s relationship with Michael) and, of course, Lisa Marie. Lisa Marie was the only one he allowed himself to become more than just sexually involved with since Diana, that boy was sprung. Lisa Marie, however, led him to believe they would have a family of their own, but stayed on the pill anyway because even if she said she was a rebel, the little bitch didn’t want mommy dearest to get mad at her for having a lil black child. Mike found the pills, split, messed around with a couple of other women with the goal of getting one pregnant just to hurt Lisa (he can be an as.shole sometimes, true) and eventually knocked up Debbie, which, (if I didn’t love and adore his children and think think they saved his life) I would say was probably one of the biggest mistakes of his life. He was never faithful to Debbie after they married, never even wanted to marry her but Mike doesn’t like to break his mother’s heart. He and Lisa continued having sex until 1999 (they weren’t “together,” they were just fucking), until he met his third child’s mother, fell very much in love with her, but he is his father’s son, so he wasn’t entirely faithful to her, which is why they split up shortly after she found out she was pregnant. From that time, up until right before these new bullshit allegations broke, he was pretty much a dog. No attachment, just sex. He has no time to get attached to somebody and then depressed again after they part ways now that he has his children. I doubt he has time for anybody other than his children and his lawyers now.
There, you have it. Take it or leave it, but it’s the truth. Mike would hate me for putting his business out here like this, but at least it’s accurate, unlike all of the other trash going around now. He ain’t my boss anymore, so he’s just going to have to put up with it.
Summary: Scott is full of s.hit, Michael isn’t gay and he sho’ as h.ell ain’t a pedophile.
1. He’s weird, he’s rich, he’s black and he never bows down to anybody. He doesn’t fit any stereotypes of what a black man “should” be, which makes people uncomfortable and enables them to believe anything sinister about him. If you need proof of that, just look no further than this very message board.
2. I think I outlined most of the girlfriends for you, if you think hard enough you could probably figure out names, but it’s not my job to spoon feed this to you. He kept Diana a secret because that’s what the hussy wanted and by the time he got his sh.it together enough to move on and get with other women, he was so obsessed with his privacy that he didn’t want the public to know anything about him that didn’t have to do with music or business (and rightfully so, everything he does is misconstrued, manipulated and taken out of context).
3. Can’t help you there, that’s something you don’t really discuss with Michael. All I can say is that it got more out of hand after he and Diana were officially no more. Nobody around him ever condoned it, I know I certainly didn’t. In all fairness to the kid, most of it is exaggerated. He’s had a lot, but to a fairly localized area, none of this crazy cheekbone, eyebrow, eyelid, forehead stuff. But what does plastic surgery have to do with whether or not he’s a pedophile or a homosexual? Nothing. He’s got a good heart, I don’t give two sh.its about his face.
I’m about through here, maybe a repeat performance or two, but probably not. Just keep all I’ve said in mind before you jump to conclusions about Mike.
cross-references
The insider provides claims that cannot be verified through fact-checking. However, they can be supported by corroborating evidence. Therefore, we will cease fact-checking and focus on collecting supporting evidence. We will wrap up each analyzed statement with a judgment regarding the level of familiarity with the information available at that specific time.
We will refrain from discussing paternity, as outlined in the Fact Check Hub Guidelines. We believe it would be unjust to those involved who haven’t asked to be in the position they are in now.
Diana
Insider:
“It’s no secret within certain circles that Diana Ross was his first.”
[…]
“He kept Diana a secret because that’s what the hussy wanted”
Michael Jackson – Moonwalk, 1988
I guess you’d have to say she was my first love-after Diana.
[…]
She was my mother, my lover, and my sister all combined in one amazing person.
Source: Jackson, M. (1988). Moonwalk (1st ed.). New York: Doubleday.
diana ross, dutch tv-show countdown, unknown Date
You know Michael and I are in love
and there’s nothing to do about it,
there’s nothing to say.
the glenda tapes, june 1992
MJ: What am I gonna do… I don’t want to die without knowing about… having a real relationship with a women or being involved… I don’t… I was involved but we never did anything… we never really had sex…
david gest, the life of an icon, 2011
Michael told me about being on the set of a movie, and one of the leading ladies invited him to her room to watch a movie. And… I guess the saying would be ‘she jumped his bones’.
Source: Eastel, A. (Dir.) (2011). Michael Jackson: The Life of an Icon [Film]. David Gest Production.
Additional Sources
He reportedly conveyed the same message to Sean Combs, as revealed in a 1995 MTV interview. For obvious reasons, we won’t reference him directly. Furthermore, J. Randy Tarraborelli paints a vivid picture of the ‘Wiz’ set, including a quote from Diana stating, “Michael definitely isn’t gay.” While this aligns with the broader narrative, we do not consider him a reliable source.
If the insider’s claims hold water, suggesting she wished to keep their relationship under wraps, it sheds light on why he repeatedly denied any previous sexual encounters. While he expressed his affection for her, he seldom explicitly acknowledged their involvement and even took extra steps to assert that he was a virgin until he started dating Lisa.
Verdict: 🗸 probably TRUE, insider knowledge in 2004 of something MJ said 1988 in a circumspect way, confirmed by multiple other sources even before 2004.
Insider:
“The poor guy thought he was going to marry her but she fucked him over with Gene Simmons and Arne Naess. He was pretty naive back then, so he chose not to see the obvious. Then he was celibate for about 3 years”
Michael Jackson – ebony interview, 1982
EB: Any black ladies in your life?
MJ: Sure, but you wouldn´t take me seriously.
EB: Try me.
MJ: It’s Diana Ross. I love her.
EB: Do you mean as a big sister?
MJ: No, that’s not what I mean.
EB: You’re not saying you’d like to marry Diana Ross, are you?
MJ: Oh, yeah, I’m saying that.
EB: But she’s so much older than you. You mean you feel something other than close friendship for her?
MJ: Uh huh. And what does age have to do with it?
Michael Jackson – Moonwalk, 1988
When I heard Diana Ross was getting married, I was happy for her because I knew it would make her very joyous. Still, it was hard for me, because I had to walk around pretending to be overwhelmed that Diana was getting married to this man I’d never met. I wanted her to be happy, but I have to admit that I was a bit hurt and a little jealous because I’ve always loved Diana and always will.
Source: Jackson, M. (1988). Moonwalk (1st ed.). New York: Doubleday.
Michael Jackson – the glenda tapes, June 1992, published 2005
I thought I was with Diana… that was just in my own mind.
G: You were a little boy.
[…]
G: How long did it take you to get over Diana?
MJ: Years… A hell of a long time.
The following is not a conversation about Diana Ross:
Michael Jackson – the glenda tapes, June 1992, published 2005
MJ: …anything. I would give her money, I would give her jewelry, I would give her a house, a car, whatever… I was never good enough. It was like… you know…
G: Well she wanted all of you Michael… she wanted a relationship
MJ: She knew how I was from the beginning. It wasn’t like she didn’t.
G: Well, she was probably hoping then that it would change
MJ: But, not until I got married
G: Well I know that… and I’m sure that she loved you… and when you have been with somebody for that many years.
MJ: I loved her so much… I didn’t want to see that. I did not want to see that.and I knew she was fooling around. I know, girl. I know it for a fact.
Although the conversation does not focus on the same individual, it undoubtedly delivers a compelling message relevant to our examination.
To begin with, MJ’s topic remains somewhat ambiguous. He might be referring to virginity, or perhaps he’s discussing celibacy, which an insider claims he practiced in the era between Thriller and Bad (after having sex prior). Another possibility is that he’s addressing the limitations on his ability to engage in a public relationship until marriage, given the constraints of his Motown-formed public image.
Moreover and mainly, it’s important to highlight the striking resemblance between his phrasing and that of the insider. ‘I didn’t want to see that’ versus ‘he chose not to see the obvious’.
The following narrative may be mere conjecture, but it stems from careful observations and creates a strikingly clear image:
Fan Account
youtube comment Under a Diana Ross video, Unknown
Do your research on this topic: I’ve been a Michael Jackson fan forever ..back in the 80’s between 1983-1984 the rumors on the streets of Los Angeles was Michael & Diana was secretly engaged…Michael asked her twice to marry him but when his mother found out she told Michael that she was too old & too experience for him.. I remember hearing that.. Michael had to break the engagement then Michael disappeared for two years and Prince was getting all the awards from late 1984-1986 right after the Victory Tour Michael went missing and in 1985 Diana Ross married another man that nobody knew about..Michael did’nt show up to the wedding… In 1985 in the Tabloids said That Michael Jackson tried to go to the Island where Diana Ross was having her Honeymoon and Michael was turned away by private security (Research it) T.V showed Michael in Asia in a boat by himself in deep thought…I felt so bad for him and on top of that he had an album to work on…
1986 come in and on The 1986 American Music Awards is where Michael & Diana seen each other for the first time since she got married and Michael showed up with Elizabeth Taylor which was confusing but Mike loved older women because he performed at the Strip Clubs,Nudie Bars and drives where ever they can play and was exposed to that world at a young age… So Michael is sitting their with a sly look with liz next to him but when Diana sung that song Chain Reaction Michael’s energy changed and Diana had some of the Jackson siblings present awards because the Host can also pick who they want to give away awards too… Please check out 1986 American Music Awards..Michael energy was off I watched the whole thing as a Kid and I was like What’s wrong with Mike..Watch how Diana grab Michael close to her at the end..it was Torture to see Mike stand that close to his Number one crush… By late 1987 the song Dirty Diana comes out which Michael says it’s about a crazy fan following him everywhere he goes on tour…I just felt bad for him because that was the one that got away…but even in Death he still thought about her Mike made Diana the God Mother & the overseer of his Children… Now that’s Love… Rest in Paradise to The Great Late Michael J. Jackson!! P S ..Research everything I wrote… Because people are not going to tell you anything because of Legency…PEACE & LOVE…
Verdict: 🗸 TRUE, insider knowledge in 2004 of something MJ said privately in 1992, made public in 2005.
LMP
Insider:
“Lisa Marie was the only one he allowed himself to become more than just sexually involved with since Diana, that boy was sprung.”
Letter from Michael Jackson to Lisa Marie Presley, unknown date
Im’ crazy For you
Love Turd.
Lisa Marie presley & Riley Keough – From here to the great unknown, 2024
Riley Keough:
For about a year they were riding the high of being newly in love
Source: Presley, L. M., & Keough, R. (2024). From Here To The Great Unknown: A Memoir. New York: Random House Publishing Group.
Gary Hearne, Testimony, Robson vs MJJ Productions 2016, 2.9.2016
Gary Hearne was MJ’s Driver
A I don’t remember. And I don’t remember — I
knew that they were friends. The reason I think I must
have known ahead of time was because when the news came
that they actually got married, I had no surprise about
it.
Q Were they dating before that?
A Yes.
Q They were dating?
A Yes.
Q How long had they dated?
A Oh, it could have been a period over a year. I
don’t remember.”
[…]
“Q Okay. How many times did you take them to
restaurants together?
A Best estimate
Q Your mike fell off.
A Oh — 12 to 15 times.
Q Alrighty. And take them anywhere else other
than to restaurants?
A Yes.
Q Where else?
A I don’t remember all the places. I remember
that she was in the car quite often; that they were often
together. I do recall taking them both to the
Scientology building in Hollywood, one of their
buildings.”
[…]
“Q Okay. Well, before they got married, did you
ever see them romantic with one another?
A Yes.
Q In which way?
A Sitting in the back seat of the car we were in.
Q Doing what?
A Kissing.
Q How many times?
A Once or twice.
Q And was that the first time you had ever seen
him kissing a girl? And was that the last —
A First time that I recall other than, perhaps,
on the cheek or
Q Yeah. Other than like kissing your mom on the
cheek or something?
A Right. Right.
Q Is that the last one you ever recall seeing him
kiss?
A Yes.
Source: Robson v MJJ Productions 2016. Trial Testimony Hearne, Gary, 2.9.2016. Retrieved October 16, 2024, from https://mjjr.net/docs/Deposition-Gary-Hearne-2016-09-02.pdf.
Evan Chandler, David Schwartz, Transcript of Phone Conversation, 9.7.1993
Evan Chandler: Father of Jordan Chandler, first accuser of MJ in 1993
David Schwartz: Stepfather of Jordan Chandler, first accuser of MJ in 1993
4 MR. CHANDLER: — discuss why it might
5 be harmful.
6 Suppose I’m right? I mean if Michael
7 loves [tape irregularity] Lisa at least want to
8 hear my opinion about why what’s going on could be
9 potentially harmful? If you love somebody, you
10 don’t want them to get hurt.
Source: Schwartz vs Chandler. Transcript of Audio Cassette, 9.7.1993. Case No. SC 031 774, Superior Court of the State of California. Retrieved October 13, 2024, from https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/plugin-schwartz_chandler.pdf.
It seems in July 1993, before the accusations were made, the Chandler-Schwartz family already knew about Michael Jackson and his “love” for “Lisa” – which is very likely Lisa Marie Presley.
Lisa Marie Presley – From here to the great unknown, 2024
We had worked out a signal: If it rang three times and then stopped it was Michael, and you had to clear the fuck out the way for me to get on the phone with him. We’d be on the phone for long periods of time. I just thought that he was lonely and needed a friend. But he was pursuing me.
[…]
This went on for a few months, and then the molestation accusations hit.
Source: Presley, L. M., & Keough, R. (2024). From Here To The Great Unknown: A Memoir. New York: Random House Publishing Group.
In her recent memoir the timeline of their relationship supports that claim. According to her, MJ was already persuing her before the accusations were made, and she seems to have reciprocated his feelings.
Verdict: 🗸 TRUE, insider did have information other people in the know did have in 1993, but most outsiders did dispute.
The Chandlers’ apparent awareness of Lisa Marie raises two possibilities: either their allegations of molestation were fabricated, or they genuinely thought he had feelings for a woman while also abusing Jordan Chandler. This leads to a deeper inquiry: is it possible for someone to be heterosexual and attracted to adult women while also committing acts of child molestation? We have looked into this matter thoroughly.
Michael being straight has nothing
to do with him being a pedophile.
They are not mutually exclusive.
True or False?
Meta-Analysis of 55 studies about Pedophelia and sexual interest
Having Children
Insider:
“Lisa Marie, however, led him to believe they would have a family of their own, but stayed on the pill anyway because even if she said she was a rebel, the little bitch didn’t want mommy dearest to get mad at her for having a lil black child. Mike found the pills, split, messed around with a couple of other women with the goal of getting one pregnant just to hurt Lisa (he can be an as.shole sometimes, true) and eventually knocked up Debbie”
Michael Jackson – the Shmuley Tapes, 2001, published 2010
Yeah, and she promised me that before we married, that would be the first thing we’d do was have children. So I was broken-hearted and I walked around all the time holding these little baby dolls and I’d be crying, that’s how badly I wanted them.
Lisa Marie presley & Riley Keough – ‘From here to the great unknown’, 2024
Riley Keough:
Michael really wanted kids with my mom from the minute they got together, but she never felt certain about it. She didn’t have that feeling she’d had with my father. Whether to have children was a fundamental conflict in their marriage from the start. I know that once in a while Michael would say, “If you’re not going to have children with me, then I’m going to find somebody who will.” He would also say, “Debbie Rowe told me she will have my children.
To which my mom would respond jealously, “Then go fuck Debbie Rowe.””
Lisa Marie Presley:
He had wanted me to have his children so badly and I didn’t want to. I knew he ultimately wanted to be the only caretaker of the children. Michael wanted to control things. He didn’t want a mother influence, or any other influence, in fact.
I figured that Michael would have me have the children and then dump me, get me out of the picture. I could read him like a clock. I understood everything, and I knew everything about him because all we did was bare our souls to one another. I knew his nature, and he was very controlling and calculating.
Presley, L. M., & Keough, R. (2024). From Here To The Great Unknown: A Memoir. New York: Random House Publishing Group.
What about the timeline the insider gives: found the pills->split->messed around
We know that Lisa Marie filed for divorce in January 1996, the split occured allegedly in December 1995. It is also known that Debbie Rowe suffered a miscarriage in March 1996, an article claims 3 months into the pregnancy. If we assume this is correct that would then plant the date of conception firmly in December 1995. Which means that Michael probably messed around while still married, or, even more precise, that this might have been a reason for the divorce in the first place: Debbie Rowe’s first pregnancy.
In fact, the insider is a little dubious in their reasoning: Why would Mike split up and then go on to mess around just to hurt his wife? If there was a split, then he would be free to do whatever he wanted. So it seems probable that he messed around to hurt Lisa, she was furious about it, and divorced him. There are many interviews where Lisa talks about her anger towards Michael, supposedly because of his drug use, but she might conventiently stay silent on the detail that the facts support even more – another woman’s pregnancy.
The circumstances surrounding this situation are indeed accurate. The insider provides a detailed account of the events that transpired. However, the underlying motivations appear to be somewhat more complex. The insider claims that Lisa was opposed to having “black” children, while Riley Keough suggests that her mother felt unsafe, and according to Lisa Michael showed controlling behavior.
Ultimately, Michael did indeed raise his children alone without the involvement of another parental figure, which Lisa argued was his goal. (Although, to be fair and to dot the i’s on that matter: Lisa did write the book after the fact, so it can’t really be argued that it did turn out this way, rather she might have adapted her narrative to fit the events as they had already transpired. She did also state in other interviews from 2003 that she had feared a custody battle, but here the same thing applies; in 2003 he was already a single parent.)
This does not negate the insider’s claim that Lisa was hesitant about having (mixed-race) children. In fact, the depiction provided by the insider suggests an environment that aligns with Lisa’s apparent reluctance to bring a child into such circumstances.
Verdict: 🗸 TRUE, the insider had knowledge in 2004 that wasn’t public until 2010 when the Shmuley Tapes were published in book form. Please correct us if it was earlier.
Insider:
“He and Lisa continued having sex until 1999 (they weren’t “together,” they were just fucking)”
Lisa Marie Presley – Interview Oprah, 2010
[We] spent four more years after we divorced, getting back together and breaking up, talking about getting back together and breaking up.
This information could be gathered partially through the press (e.g. Paparazzi photos of MJ/LMP on her birthday 1998). But the media narrative at that time, and actually, still to this day, is very much in doubt about the whole relationship being real.
Verdict: 🗸 TRUE, the insider had knowledge in 2004 that could only be known fully after the Shmuley Boteach book came out in 2010, and Lisa Marie Presley’s Interview with Oprah in 2010.
June Chandler
Insider:
“becoming involved with […] June Chandler (the mother of punk bitch Jordan who got jealous of mommy’s relationship with Michael)”
MJ with chandler family, 1993
MJ & June &
Lily &
Jordan
Chandler (1993)
Pouting.
June Chandler Cross-Examination – People vs Michael Joe Jackson 2005, 11.4.2005
14 Q. BY MR. MESEREAU: Did there come a time when
15 you were happy that Michael Jackson was around,
16 because your ex-husband Evan was spending time
17 writing a screenplay and you were separated from
18 David?
19 A. Correct.
20 Q. Approximately what — when was that?
21 A. In the beginning I was happy.
22 Q. Okay. When did Michael go to Cartier and
23 buy you that jewelry?
24 A. When we went to Las Vegas.
25 Q. Was he with you when he did that?
26 A. No.
27 Q. Did he do it on his own?
28 A. He did it with Jordie.
[Page Break]
1 Q. Okay. And did he come back and give it to
2 you?
3 A. Yes.
4 Q. Okay. Now, you described that to the Los
5 Angeles District Attorney as a love bracelet, did
6 you not?
7 A. Yes.
8 Q. Is that what it was?
9 A. Yes.
10 Q. What is a love bracelet?
11 A. It’s a bracelet that’s a gold bracelet and
12 that’s what it’s called.
13 Q. Okay. Had you ever told Michael Jackson you
14 liked that kind of jewelry?
15 A. No.
16 Q. Were you surprised when he bought it for
17 you?
18 A. Yes.
[…]
22 Q. And did you go into Michael Jackson’s
23 bedroom?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. How many times do you think you went into
26 Michael Jackson’s bedroom at Neverland?
27 A. It stopped after maybe the tenth time.
[…]
13 Q. When you used to visit Michael Jackson’s
14 bedroom, would you see other people in there?
15 A. Yes.
16 Q. Who do you remember seeing in there?
17 A. The Cascio brothers. Macaulay. Brett.
18 Wade.
19 Q. And you saw their parents in there, too,
20 didn’t you?
21 A. No.
[…]
26 Q. And why were you in the bedroom those ten
27 times?
28 A. Because I’m Jordie’s mother. I’m allowed to
[Page Break]
1 go into the bedroom.
2 Q. Were you dropping clothes off?
3 A. Oh, I might have. I don’t recall.
4 Q. Did you ever sit down and watch T.V. or
5 anything in there?
6 A. Yes.
7 Q. How often did you do that?
8 A. A few times.
9 Q. Did you ever have food delivered to you in
10 Michael Jackson’s bedroom?
11 A. I don’t recall.
Source: People vs Michael Joe Jackson 2005. Cross-Examination Trial Testimony Chandler, June, 11.4.2005. , p5693 ff, via Court Transcript. Retrieved October 16, 2024, from https://www.themichaeljacksoninnocentproject.com/blog/041105.txt.
Joy Robson Testimony – People vs Michael Joe Jackson 2005, 6.5.2005
9 Q. Was she a friend of yours?
10 A. No.
11 Q. You didn’t care for her, right?
12 A. I did not.
13 Q. Why?
14 A. My impression of June Chandler was that she
15 wanted to be mistress of Neverland; that she was
16 ordering the staff around as if she owned Neverland;
17 that she wanted everything that went with it. My
18 impression of June Chandler was that she was a
19 gold-digger.
20 Q. Did you see her interact with Mr. Jackson?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. Did you feel she was trying to use Mr.
23 Jackson?
24 A. Absolutely.
25 Q. Did you ever talk to Mr. Jackson about it?
26 A. No, I did not.
Source: People v Michael Joe Jackson 2005. Trial Testimony Robson, Joy, 6.5.2005. p9296 ff, via Court Transcript. Retrieved October 10, 24, from https://www.themichaeljacksoninnocentproject.com/blog/050605.txt.
National Enquirer Article – before the allegations were made, 25.5.1993
Michael Jackson’s secret family – a millionaire’s wife and her two kids
Michael Jackson has developed a bizarre obsession with a woman and her two children – and turned them into his secret family!
The superstar has grown incredibly attached to June Chandler Schwartz, her 13-year-old son Jordie and 5-year-old daughter Lily.
[…]
“I consider you my own family,” he told June. “And I’ll look after you as if you were.”
[…]
After that meeting, Michael began calling the family every day, said the insider. “He had long conversations with Jordie and became fascinated by June, a beautiful Oriental woman.
“Michael was calling three or four times a day.”
[…]
“He’s infatuated and obsessed with June, Jordie and Lily,” said the insider. “He has adopted this family as his own.”
“Michael told me, ‘I’m enjoying having June, Jordie and Lily with me.
The four of us are like a little family. We all have so much fun together that it’s ecstasy.”
This article uncharacteristically frames Michael as someone who embraces a family, captivated by a woman and her children. Although the story was reportedly leaked by a source close to the Chandlers who might have skewed it in that way, the article was ultimately penned by the National Enquirer. This serves as evidence of how the media was willing to depict Michael Jackson prior to the emergence of the allegations.
Further Reading:
Verdict: possibly TRUE, Insider knowledge BEFORE Court Case 2005, but AFTER 1993 National Enquirer Article.
The upcoming topics are not ideal for reaching definitive conclusions. From now on, we will stop attempting that and instead concentrate on gathering supporting evidence.
Sex
Insider:
“From that time, up until right before these new bullshit allegations broke, he was pretty much a dog. No attachment, just sex. He has no time to get attached to somebody and then depressed again after they part ways now that he has his children.”
Invincible Signing Event, 7.11.2001
Phone Number, Navel Piercing etc.
Disneyland, 1.12.2002
Fan-Encounter
Living with Michael Jackson, Bashir, 2003
“You can give me more than a Hug”
“They are stunning to look at”
Source for all.
Gay Advances
Insider:
“if you knew their history, you’d know how weirded out Michael was by Scott’s advances. Michael’s not overtly homophobic, but he is old school and isn’t completely comfortable with it. However, given the nature of his profession, he has tried his best to be accepting and because he tries to be a good Christian, he does not judge, he leaves that to God. He still gets incredibly uncomfortable by advances by anything remotely male….which brings us to Scott. Scott made a pass at Michael. Michael ignored it, initially. The second time, Michael told him to back the #### off (in more polite language, of course…Michael was still quite young and sweet and innocent back in the ’80s, if a dude tried something similar NOW, he might get punched in the face)”
with leonard bernstein, 25.8.1986
MJ with leonard bernstein
As fans of West Side Story, (as was MJ) and Bernstein, this is so uncomfortable to look at.
Leonard Bernstein’s birthday 25.8.1986
Photograph: Getty/Lester Cohen
Stranger in moscow mv, 7/1996
Oh wow.
While we don’t dispute the insider’s assertions, it’s important to highlight that Michael could have a playful, flirty and relaxed demeanor around men when he liked someone, felt comfortable or when it suited his needs. Notable instances include behind-the-scenes moments of “Black or White” with John Landis, “Ghosts” with Stan Winston, and the 1978 interview with Molly Meldrum.
Blackness/Identity
Insider:
“He’s weird, he’s rich, he’s black and he never bows down to anybody.
[…]
He doesn’t fit any stereotypes of what a black man “should” be, which makes people uncomfortable and enables them to believe anything sinister about him.”
Image manifesto, 1987, published 2020
I hated unequality in Record Biusness
Blacks weren’t Able To Be on MTV the Most watched Musical Show.
Signs like Disco Sucks all over Town
The cross over unequality
not Being able To Be on cover of white publications
Being Told “We don’t put Blacks on our covers Blacks Don’t sale”
[…]
Do it, 200,000,000 for the white children so they’ll have Black Heroes.
[…]
They will grow up prejudice, They Hate Blacks
My goal is To Become So “Big”, So Powerful, to Become Such a Hero To end prejudice To Make these little white Kids love Me By selling over 200,000,000 Albums
Make them look up to me
[…]
Throughout History White Men have always Branded the pages of History with great white Hopes putting whites over Blacks as nobles like Elvis Being The King of Rock and Roll
Springsteen being the Boss
or The Beatles being the Best
Yes these guys were good But they weren’t Better singers or dancers than the Blacks.
[…]
I Am Not prejudice, it’s Just time For the First Black King Now. and Forever
I love White people Black people All races I want whats fair.
The Glenda Tapes, June 1992, published 2005
MJ: But, yeah, but girl, girlfriend had my nose wide open, okay? She could drive a truck through my nose.
G: (laughing) That is the craziest expression I’ve ever heard.
MJ: It’s a black thing.
G: (laughing, imitating his drawl) It’s a black thang? What is it with the nose? I don’t understand how your nose can be wide open.
MJ: I don’t know, it’s just… it’s personal.
G: I mean, it had to start from somewhere. Somebody had to have made it up and I was wondering what they were thinking when they made it up.
MJ: It’s a black secret.
G: Okay Laughing
[…]
MJ: And I was so in love and I had my nose wide open and I didn’t want to believe what was really going on.
After the dance panel, 2010 – about They don’t care about us mV, 1996
Arthur Jafa:
Spike three brilliant Brazilian officials and uh Michael Jackson they’re all sitting there because there was some concern about safety and control and they were shooting enough of all this. And so this long and terrible meeting is going on and Spike is talking to these people and the producer friend is talking to them and everything. And Michael’s just quietly sitting there taking notes, taking those, taking notes. So finally after a couple of hours almost the Brazilian officials leave, Spike leaves, and Michael is just sitting there with my friend.
He said at a certain point Michael looked up and said “damn I thought those motherfuckers weren’t gonna never leave” now and he says hold up and he says this not in (high-pitched voice) “damn I don’t think this motherfuckers” he says it like a black man what’s it “damn I thought the motherfuckers was gonna never leave” then he got up and walked out and my friend was saying he was sitting there like…
[…]
And then my friend just said, he said the thing that blew his mind was not only how deep Michael Jackson’s voice was was like it occurred to him at that moment this is just a brother from Indiana.
Rereading michael jackson, 2011
This is one of the best texts you will ever read about Michael Jackson.
‘Is It Scary’ Lyrics:
I’m gonna be
Exactly what you wanna see.
It’s you who’s haunting me
Because you’re wanting me
To be the stranger in the night.
[…]
Am I amusing you
Or just confusing you?
Am I the beast you visualized?
And if you wanna see
Eccentric oddities
I’ll be grotesque before your eyes.
Let them all materialize.
he developed an artistic response that challenges our most fundamental beliefs about race and identity
Source: https://dancingwiththeelephant.wordpress.com/rereading-michael-jackson/
Privacy
“by the time he got his sh.it together enough to move on and get with other women, he was so obsessed with his privacy that he didn’t want the public to know anything about him that didn’t have to do with music or business (and rightfully so, everything he does is misconstrued, manipulated and taken out of context).”
The Glenda tapes, 1992, published 2005
MJ: I took them off for a minute, I waved to the girls in the balcony and I said “This is for the girls in the balcony,” and I took them off and I put them back on. That was hard. I didn’t want to do it.
G: How, uh when did you start wearing glasses, sunglasses all the time?
MJ: I wore shades for years. You know, I wear shades because… like, like Mr. D said… and it’s true. Your eyes… when you show someone your eyes, you let them look through your soul. I didn’t want anyone to look into my soul, y’know? I didn’t want anybody to see that about me. And there’s a lot of pain and stuff and I’m very scared.
Cosmetic Surgery
“In all fairness to the kid, most of it is exaggerated. He’s had a lot, but to a fairly localized area, none of this crazy cheekbone, eyebrow, eyelid, forehead stuff.”
Michael Jackson – Moonwalk, 1988
I’d like to set the record straight right now. I have never had my cheeks altered or my eyes altered. I have not had my lips thinned, nor have I had dermabrasion or a skin peel. All of these charges are ridiculous. If they were true, I would say so, but they aren’t. I have had my nose altered twice and I recently added a cleft to my chin, but that is it. Period. I don’t care whate anyone else says- it’s my face and I know.
Source: Jackson, M. (1988). Moonwalk (1st ed.). New York: Doubleday.
Living with michael jackson, Martin Bashir, 2003
Just my nose
[Operations] Two
Katherine jackson interview, 2010
He had other operations on his nose, but any other thing, he didn’t, except his vitiligo.
The impact of vitiligo on how we perceive a person can be more profound than we might anticipate.